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Donnerstag, 20. März 2014, 08:02

Re: Europäischer Gerichtshof

Hallo Liebe Waldfee.

Du kannst folgendes machen. Kopiere dir den Link und lasse es dir über Google übersetzten. Ich hoffe ich konnte dir weiterhelfen.

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Donnerstag, 20. März 2014, 21:32

Europäischer Gerichtshof für Menschenrechte: „Niemand darf der Folter oder unmenschlicher oder erniedrigender Strafe oder Behandlung unterworfen werden.“

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In Bezug auf Beitrag 58 und Beitrag 59 ( oben – hier in diesem Thread ).

Meine Antwort zu der Frage von Boardnutzerin »
Waldfee« dies doch bitte zu übersetzen, da das Englisch vieler hier nicht so gut ist.

Sorry, aber das kann ich nicht.

Ich hatte schon mal, anderswo, erklärt warum ich das nicht kann @
http://heimkinder-forum.de/v3/board3-heim-talk/board7-offener-talk-heime/14444-alles-was-du-schon-immer-wissen-wolltest-über-martin-mitchell-–-all-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-martin-mitchell/#post295865 ( dort Beitrag 20 vom Dienstag, 24. Januar 2012, um 02:49 Uhr )

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die Übersetzung von Gerichtsurteilen betrifft – und das ist um was es sich hier handelt – ist die Sache noch viel schwieriger; und Übersetzungsprogramme helfen da überhaupt nicht .

Um das alles richtig übersetzen zu können muss man, meines Erachtens, zugleich in der englischen Sprache und Kultur sowohl wie in der deutschen Sprache und Kultur hoch qualifizierter Dolmetscher, hoch qualifizierter Jurist und hoch qualifizierter Fachanwalt sein.

Und davon bin ich weit entfernt.

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Donnerstag, 20. März 2014, 21:50

Europäischer Gerichtshof für Menschenrechte: „Niemand darf der Folter oder unmenschlicher oder erniedrigender Strafe oder Behandlung unterworfen werden.“

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Europäischer Gerichtshof für Menschenrechte: „Niemand darf der Folter oder unmenschlicher oder erniedrigender Strafe oder Behandlung unterworfen werden.“


Weiterführend – insbesondere ! – zu Beitrag 54, Beitrag 55, Beitrag 56 und Beitrag 57 ( oben - hier in diesem Thread ), aber eigentlich zu allen vorhergehenden Beiträgen ( oben, auf vorhergehenden Seiten, hier in diesem Thread ).


Louise O’Keeffe gegen Irland EuGMR 027 (2014), entschieden am 28.01.2014.

DAS EIGENTLICHE URTEIL (28.01.2014) @ http://s.conjur.com.br/dl/europa-irlanda-abuso-escola.pdf (von den Richtern des Europäischen Gerichtshofs für Menschenrechte selbst verfasst und gesprochen - insgesamt 82 Seiten in Englisch)

Alles andere im Internet – sonstige Hinweise/Links zu diesem Fall – sind nur kurze Zusammenfassungen oder Auszüge des Falls oder des diesbezüglichen Urteils in Straßburg.


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Louise O’Keeffe versus Ireland ECHR 027 (2014), decided on 28.01.2014.

THE ACTUAL JUDGEMENT (28.01.2014) @ http://s.conjur.com.br/dl/europa-irlanda-abuso-escola.pdf (written and spoken by the judges of the the European Court of Human Rights themselves - 82 pages in toto in English)

Everything else on the internet – all other references/links to the case – are only short summaries or extracts of the case or the final judgement pertaining thereto in Strasbourg.

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Donnerstag, 8. Mai 2014, 03:14

„Niemand darf der Folter oder unmenschlicher oder erniedrigender Strafe oder Behandlung unterworfen werden.“

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MENSCHENRECHTE UND HUMANITÄRES VÖLKERRECHT

Nicht nur der Staat, die BUNDESREPUBLIK DEUTSCHLAND, muß sich an den "Internationalen Pakt für bürgerliche und politische Rechte" halten, aber auch der Staat, AUSTRALIEN (und auch der australische Bundesstaat VICTORIA), ist ohne Ausnahme jedem seiner Bürger gegenüber dazu verpflichtet.

The UN Human Rights Council / The UN Human Rights Committee

United Nations Human Rights Committee (UNHRC)UN MenschenrechtsausschussAusschuss für Menschenrechte der Vereinten Nationen

UN Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (CCPR) =
Internationale Pakt für bürgerliche und politische Rechte

Der UN Menschenrechtsausschuss ist ein bedeutendes Organ, das für die Beachtung und Durchsetzung von Menschenrechten auf internationaler Ebene von entscheidender Bedeutung ist.

[ the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948 ), the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (1966), the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (1966) ]

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ABC @ http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s3998348.htm

Justice for woman bashed by police 20 years ago.


Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Broadcast: 05/05/2014
REPORTER: LOUISE MILLIGAN

A Melbourne woman bashed by police in her own home has had the United Nations Human Rights Committee hand down a landmark ruling in her 20-year fight for justice.

Transcript

SARAH FERGUSON, PRESENTER: A United Nations human rights committee has castigated the Victorian Government and police over the case of a woman who was bashed senseless by police officers. A group of police broke into Corinna Horvath's home without a warrant and beat her unconscious. When she sued for damages, the state denied liability, saying it was not responsible for police who acted outside the line of duty. Now, more than 20 years later, the UN committee has found in a landmark ruling that the State of Victoria breached the UN Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and must pay compensation. Louise Milligan has this report.

LOUISE MILLIGAN, REPORTER: It's 18 years since the event that changed Corinna Horvath's life.

CORINNA HORVATH: For the first few years, I was very withdrawn. I was very nervy. It was hard. And I was scared all the time.

REPORTER: This picture shows why she was so frightened, her nose smashed by a blow from a baton, her mouth gushing with clotted blood.

CORINNA HORVATH: My face was beaten to a pulp, my nose was broken, suspected broken jaw.

REPORTER: The injuries to the 21-year-old were not meted out by street thugs. The blows were delivered by Victoria Police officers.

TAMAR HOPKINS, FLEMINGTON/KENSINGTON COMMUNITY LEGAL CENTRE: It's absolutely disgraceful what happened to Corinna. She was beaten senseless by officers who had no reason to do what they were doing.

REPORTER: Corinna Horvath's life has changed completely since then and she now devotes her time to rescuing horses.

CORINNA HORVATH: I'm a mum of three now. I've grown up. I do a lot on my own property. And, yeah, I'm a changed person from back then.

REPORTER: Back then, Horvath was, by her own admission, something of a wild child. She and her boyfriend Craig Love lived in Summerville on Melbourne's southern fringe, partied hard and didn't like cops.

CORINNA HORVATH: Me and Craig were raided every now and then. We smoked a little bit of dope back then and so they would come in and they would get us for the little bit of dope that we had. So, they were doing that on a regular basis.

REPORTER: On March 8, 1996, Horvath and Love were pulled over at a service station at nearby Hastings by a police officer she'd had several run-ins with before. The constable slapped an "unroadworthy" sticker on her car. As the police officer spoke to her, an angry Corinna Horvath turned up the car radio in defiance.

After the officer left, she drove home.

The next evening, Constable David Jenkin and his partner, Stephen Davison, turned up at Corinna Horvath's home, wanting to see her car. She declined and they began to struggle.

CORINNA HORVATH: Well I grabbed him to stop - I just put my hands up to stop him from going around the back. ... He left hand marks, finger marks around my neck, and by memory, I'd ripped his shirt.

REPORTER: Later that night, eight officers turned up at Corinna Horvath's home.

CORINNA HORVATH: And all I remember hearing was, "We want Corinna". It was just bang, bang, bang. And I just thought, "S**t". I packed myself.

REPORTER: Despite not having a warrant, Constable Jenkin and the other officers broke down the door and charged through the house.

CORINNA HORVATH: He made a V-Line straight for me, apparently. Didn't worry about anyone else. He knew exactly who he wanted; he wanted me.

REPORTER: Corinna Horvath doesn't remember what happened next, but several witnesses described it in court.

CORINNA HORVATH: Jenkin had handcuffed me and he had punched me in the face probably close to a dozen times while I was handcuffed and he was on my back. And Sergeant Christensen had walked past and smacked me in the nose with a baton and that's where my nose split. ... So, yeah, between the pair of them, they'd got into me good and proper.

REPORTER: Corinna Horvath was arrested for resisting police and then taken by ambulance to hospital.

11 charges laid against her laid by the police that night were all thrown out. The court learned of the officers fabricated evidence.

TAMAR HOPKINS: The police had lied on matters of major significance and also had in fact lied to the Ethical Standards Department as part of the original disciplinary process that they went through.

REPORTER: Corinna Horvath sued. She and others injured that night won, with the court awarding more than $300,000 in damages. The judge was scathing about police.

CORINNA HORVATH: (Reading from judge's judgement) "And I find that Jenkin in his conduct showed the most high-handed approach accompanied by excessive and unnecessary violence, wrought out of motives of ill will and a desire to get even."

REPORTER: But that was not the end of the matter. The police wouldn't pay.

DYSON HORE-LACY, BARRISTER: These police officers, I've got to say, one went bankrupt - the main offender [Jenkin] went bankrupt and the other three officers all cried poor; they had no money.

REPORTER: Despite the brutality of the police officers' actions, the State of Victoria appealed on the basis it wasn't liable to pay compensation because the police acted outside the realm of their duties and the state won, so Corinna Horvath did not receive her damages.

CORINNA HORVATH: Where's the assault charges? If it's that bad and they acted out of the scope of their duty, where is the assault charges that Jenkin, Davison, Christensen should be suffering?

REPORTER: Corinna Horvath's solicitor, Tamar Hopkins, says her case is not unique.

TAMAR HOPKINS: Unfortunately, time and time again, stories of heavy-handed, violent treatment meted out against people who've been arrested by police are told to community legal centres, lawyers, barristers across this state.

REPORTER: In 2008, Corinna Horvath's lawyers took her case to the United Nations Human Rights Committee. Six years later, the committee has decided: Australia has violated the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the state must pay compensation to Corinna Horvath, must review its legislation, must tell the UN how it's going to remedy this situation and must widely disseminate this decision. "A State cannot elude its responsibility for violations of the Covenant committed by its own agents."

DYSON HORE-LACY: It's a vindication of the stance that we took that Victoria was a signatory to the covenant. It agreed to abide by its terms and it wasn't just something that applied to African countries or other countries and not us; it applied to us as well. And we could do to look in our own backyard.

REPORTER: In December [2014], the law will change to mean that if a claimant against a police officer who acts wrongfully on the job is unlikely to ever get their money and has exhausted all avenues, then the state must pay. Lawyers say this will still be an expensive and lengthy process.

None of the officers who beat Corinna Horvath lost their jobs. In fact, they were all promoted and two are still working for Victoria Police.

TAMAR HOPKINS: It's an extraordinary contradiction that the state would say that the officers were behaving with such wilful disregard and disrespect for a person and yet continue to employ them.

REPORTER: The UN decision also requires that Victoria Police reopen its disciplinary proceedings against the officers. The State of Victoria has 180 days to respond.

DYSON HORE-LACY: We expect the Japanese to comply with a decision of the International Court of Justice on whaling. Be very hypocritical for the state to say, "Oh, no, we're not going to abide by this decision because we don't like it."

REPORTER: Corinna Horvath is glad to finally have vindication.

CORINNA HORVATH: It's bigger than me now. It's not about me. It's about everybody else who ends up in my position. If their [the state’s] police officers act as bad as what they do, they need to be responsible for them.

SARAH FERGUSON: Louise Milligan reporting. Victoria Police declined to comment on Corinna Horvath's case and Victorian Government said in a statement that it's currently reviewing the UN committee's finding.

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Donnerstag, 8. Mai 2014, 03:25

„Niemand darf der Folter oder unmenschlicher oder erniedrigender Strafe oder Behandlung unterworfen werden.“

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United Nations Human Rights Committee (UNHRC)UN MenschenrechtsausschussAusschuss für Menschenrechte der Vereinten Nationen Menschenrechtsausschuss der Vereinten Nationen @ http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN-Menschenrechtsausschuss ( nicht viel aber alles in Deutsch ).

HOW TO FILE COMPLAINTS ON HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS [ with the United Nations Human Rights Committee ] @
http://www.unesco.de/fileadmin/medien/Dokumente/Wissenschaft/How_to_file_complaints_2010.pdf "German Commission for UNESCO and the United Nations Association of Germany" ( alles in Englisch )

[ Individuelle-Beschwerde-Prozedur ] INDIVIDUAL COMPLAINTS PROCEDURE @
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Committee ( complaints and supporting documents must be in English, French, Spanish or Russian ) ( alles in Englisch )

Current German member of the United Nations Human Rights Committee (2012-2016): Anja Seibert-Fohr
Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and International Law @
http://www.mpil.de/en/pub/organization/scientific_staff/aseibert.cfm

http://www.uni-goettingen.de/en/440075.html

http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/CCPR/Membership/Anja.pdf

http://www.internationallawobserver.eu/2009/09/08/anja-seibert-fohr-prosecuting-serious-human-rights-violations-new-york-oxford-university-press-2009/

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/staat-und-recht/rechtspersonen/anja-seibert-fohr-fuer-die-menschenrechte-11929382.html (19.10.2012)

Example of an Australian case brought before the UNHRC @
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s3998348.htm ( Media report from 05.05.2014 )

●●● http://www.ehemalige-heimkinder-tatsachen.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&p=580&sid=150681e52aebf62adff196b1e5a6facf#p580

Und siehe auch das irische Beispiel der Magdalenen Heimwäschereien der Unbarmherzigen Schwestern, wo sich die irischen Opfer ebenso an das UNHRC gewandt hatten und DORT letztendlich Recht bekamen @ http://www.ehemalige-heimkinder-tatsachen.com/viewtopic.php?p=552#p552 ( alles in Deutsch )

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Donnerstag, 8. Mai 2014, 03:38

„Niemand darf der Folter oder unmenschlicher oder erniedrigender Strafe oder Behandlung unterworfen werden.“

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Gestern habe ich diese Anfrage aufgesetzt und per Email nach Genf in der Schweiz abgeschickt.
Yesterday, 07.05.2014, I made formal written inquiry at the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) in Genever, Switzerland, in the following terms.


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Postal address:
Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR)
Palais des Nations
CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland

Email:
InfoDesk@ohchr.org
Website: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/CCPR/Pages/CCPRIndex.aspx


7 May 2014


Dear Sir/Madam
Dear folks

General inquiry.

Would you please be so kind and advise me where online (
direct links please) I may find recorded in an unabridged text document the "Consideration of the merits" by the UNITED NATIONS Human Rights Committee in the matter of the "Communication" of the Former Irish Magdalene Laundries Inmates v. The Irish State, apparently decided by the UNHRC at some stage in the year 2010/2011.

Any and all information that would help me to ascertain all details of this Irish case before the UNHRC would indeed be much appreciated.

I myself (now in my late 60ies) am a like victim and many of my friends and acquaintances (all now in their late 40ies, 50ies, 60ies and 70ies) are, victims of similar state-sanctioned religious youth slave labour institutions existing en mass in the late 40ies, the 50ies, the 60ies and the 70ies in the Federal Republic of Germany (Bundesrepublik Deutschland / Westdeutschland), and we all are today left without any effective remedy and without appropriate compensation under existing German law for our pain, loss and historic as well as ongoing suffering in our old age; and nobody of all the parties involved and responsible for this state-sanctioned systemic abuse we have suffered has ever been taken or is being taken to task for all this.

Thank you for all the help you may be able to offer in the form of all relevant information relating to this subject.

With kind regards

Martin Mitchell
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Adelaide, Australia )

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Donnerstag, 8. Mai 2014, 03:41

„Niemand darf der Folter oder unmenschlicher oder erniedrigender Strafe oder Behandlung unterworfen werden.“

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Daraufhin erhielt ich heute – 07.05.2014 – folgende Antwort.
On account of my inquiry I received the following reply – on 07.5.2014 – from the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), Genever, Switzerland.


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Petitions and Inquiries Section (Section des requêtes et des enquêtes)
Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights
Palais des Nations
CH-1211 Genève 10
Switzerland
Fax: +41 22 9179022


7 May 2014


Dear Madam/Sir,

Please note that no "individual communication" against the Republic of Ireland concerning the issue you mentioned has been registered and/or adopted by the Human Rights Committee or any other Treaty Body examining "individual communication". All the decisions are otherwise made public and can be found on the pertaining Committee website [ HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE Jurisprudence @ http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/CCPR/Pages/Jurisprudence.aspx ].

We assume that there might be a confusion with regard to the case you are referring to and you may wish to check the case-law of the European Court of Human Rights, also available on the Court's website.

Best regards,

The Petitions Unit
[ Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), Genever, Switzerland. ]

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